Were women with brown skin, talking proudly about sex

Explicit podcasts are booming, but the three women behind Brown Girls Do It Too say theirs is different

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As the truism goes, every generation thinks it invented sex. But surely this is the first to be talking about it more and doing it less?

On Thursday, BBC Asian Network launched Brown Girls Do It Too, a six-episode sex podcast hosted by three millennial British women of second-generation Bangladeshi, Indian and Iranian heritage. Not to be confused with Brown Girls Do It, a well-established independent podcast about books, politics, race and class, the newer project is at the Carry On meets Carrie Bradshaw end of the cultural spectrum.

In it, Poppy Jay, 33, Rubina Pabani, 31, and Roya Eslami, 24, talk about their sexual experiences and discoveries in what is pitched to listeners as a raucous, intimate over-share. And so Eslami tells of losing her virginity to a Tinder date, Pabani explains how she pulled the hottest man in the room and Jay insists sex [need not be] a special, precious thing it is just an activity for me, like going to the gym, its a function and a release.

All three of them work in the media in London and were approached by a male producer at the station to work on the project. None of them knew each other beforehand or had even met until the day of recording.

We went to the pub before the recording of the first episode, says Eslami, who tongue-in-cheek describes herself as a Persian princess. I think it helps were not friends when I told these girls about [the boys Ive slept with], they heard that for the first time, so I hope there is a freshness when youre listening to it.

Thats one perspective, but some will find that Brown Girls feels contrived, and a cynical move by the Asian Network. In person, the three of them are entertaining; they insist that there is nothing like their show out there and specifically, in terms of British Asian girls talking about masturbation and blowjobs on a BBC platform, there isnt but the business of aural sex is booming.

Women talking frankly and explicitly about sex and relationships is a major podcast genre there are now dozens out there. Given that episodes are invariably listened to solo rather than as shared experiences, the format lends itself perfectly to the subject. In the UK alone, Laid Bare, Project Pleasure and Unexpected Fluids have already been smash hits, following in the wake of Cock Tales and Inner Hoe Uprising.

Sex is so personal, no two stories are exactly the same, says Eslami, so Im not worried about ours sounding similar. The difference for them, she says, is that we all talk a lot about being 15-year-old Asian girls, having a moustache, not being fancied by any boy in school. I want to tell [girls like that], that one day youre going to love yourself and youre going to enjoy sex and you dont need to worry about this period where you feel like a sexless being.

The three agree that theyre horrified at the idea of their parents listening but beyond that they dont worry too much about the response they get. Of course we worry about what our mums and dads think, says Jay, but I dont even know the words for sex in Bengali its never talked about and that shame is used to control women. Sex comes with all this baggage of guilt and it really shouldnt.

I think the members of my community who do hear about it will be shocked, but I think thats OK and its fine, nods Pabani. Its not about destroying ties to our culture or religion or communities. [Other Asians] seeing me a certain way might make bridges for women after me, to be able to be freer and to speak. Im fine with it.

Yet on the flipside, when it comes to a broader audience, Pabani thinks it would be upsetting if people thought it was radical. Were just women talking about sex, we just happen to have melanin in our skin. And we want to feel multi-dimensional Id like people to see us as quite chill about the way we speak about sex. Were not ashamed, were proud of our exploits and the things weve learned.

A long list of reasons have been reported as to why millennials are having less sex than generations before them economic insecurity, porn and the distraction of Netflix have been cited by psychologists explaining the 21st century sex recession. But Eslami, who also admits Ill never sleep with anyone unless Im waxed downstairs, is adamant that sex is evolving with us. I think its amazing we sext, send nudes and a guy can use an app to send his girlfriend a buzz on her sex toy from across the country.

The three brim with contradictions, but overturning stereotypes imposed on them, they say, is key. Often, white people dont see Asian people as sexual beings. The perception is that were more modest, humble or prudes, says Eslami.

And so she tells listeners that she has made a list of all the people she has slept with on her phone but is also still in the process of trying to orgasm with a partner. We dont come across as experts, she says. Were just girls who have done really good things with sex and really bad things with sex the theme is that were just honest about the good, bad and ugly.

Jay, who says Ive been playing catch-up since I was 25, wants to spread the word that everyone is bonking. Theyre bonking in cars, hotel rooms, parks and we need to be honest about it.

Eslami laughs. And by talking about it, we want to break the myths and fictitious representations of sex the sex you see on TV where there is five pumps and the girl has come? Thats not how it is.

Listen and learn: more sex podcasts

Laid Bare

Three black British women have formed a special club for the sex positive and opinionated to lay bare just how much they, and their listeners, get laid.

Project Pleasure

By promising theyre putting the pleasure back into safe sex and healthy relationships, two friends explore how everyone can have a better time in bed.

Savage Lovecast

The original that spawned so many podcast offspring, Dan Savages sex and advice series started as a weekly newspaper column in North America. Now he tackles the problems posed by his listeners.

Unexpected Fluids

Alix Fox and Riyadh Khalaf offer real-life, embarrassingly honest stories about sex particularly when things go awry. Expect tales of amazement and despair and over-sharing from their guests.

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Is the fringe ready for the brash standup who utilized to get paid in nachos as well as chicken wings. We fulfill one fifty percent of 2 Dope Queens as she loads her shoes with sweat

What does Phoebe Robinson wish to see when she shows up at the Edinburgh edge. Just lots of dudes smuggling their bangers and also mash in their kilts.


 

Is the fringe ready for the brash standup who utilized to get paid in nachos as well as chicken wings? We fulfill one fifty percent of 2 Dope Queens as she loads her shoes with sweat

What does Phoebe Robinson wish to see when she shows up at the Edinburgh edge? Just lots of dudes smuggling their bangers and also mash in their kilts. Observational comic, sharp social doubter, signee of a handle ABC workshops, bestselling writer (You Cant Touch My Hair & Various Other Things I Still Have to Describe) as well as one fifty percent of 2 Dope Queens (the podcast duo transformed HBO stars), Robinson has an ideology: that comedy parched, spontaneous, periodically gross, with riffs on Googling David Bowies penis dimension after learning he has passed away can be a force for great.

At Edinburgh, Robinson will explore her show, called Sorry, Harriet Tubman, which covers sex stuff as well as race stuff yet additionally discussing accidents in the bedroom during sex, just like lower-brow points. So I think that itll be type of a conclusion of where Im at in my life today. It suggests, like a lot of her job, that if we can be truthful concerning our greatly mistaken selves as well as our profoundly mistaken culture, possibly we can make our globe a little less screwed up. Or at the very least tell a couple of decent fart jokes along the road.

The title, she states, stems from a running joke she and likewise her other dope queen The Daily Exposes Jessica Williams used to make on the podcast, concerning just how dissatisfied Tubman would certainly be, because, you understand, she basically led servants to freedom on the below ground railway and additionally Im like I simply wan na wreck Michael B Jordan, Robinson states.
I ask her exactly how she has actually pulled down Tubman this week. Its only Tuesday, she items. Nevertheless after that she births in mind exactly how that day or the day previously, she and her person had been exercising at the fitness center in her structure, which while practicing a curtsy lunge, an incredibly sophisticated action, she merely discharge like the loudest, wettest fart. Her companion has his earphones in, however he still heard it. So I thought that was an ensured dissatisfaction for Harriet, she specifies.
Robinson suches as to think of Tubman, her honorable face flecked with a solitary, excellent Demi-Moore-in-Ghost tear, hearing that fart as well, and questioning if discovering to browse by the North Star had truly deserved it.

As authentic as possible Robinson did a standup course and fell in love with it.

The comic, that describes herself as an off-brand Oprah, expanded up in Americas midwest, enjoying the sitcoms Moesha as well as Martin, and the sketch show In Living Color. She was an ironical child, but not one that might always fracture a joke. Funny was never her endgame. Yet in university, she signed up with an improv performers, and also after college, while functioning as an executive aide, a pal convinced her to take a standup course and she dropped in love, executing any place she could, from clubs to biker bars. She was usually paid in nachos. Or chicken wings.

Some comics will create a character, yet Robinsons persona is herself, with all the Instagram filters shut off. Her strategy, she claims, is to be as authentic as feasible and also her brand, she states, is similar to kind of not taking myself also seriously.

She had gotten here for lunch, at a drowsy Brooklyn restaurant, in streamlined sunglasses, worn denims, and also a pink T-shirt checking out Bonjour yall. Her sweetheart whom she calls British Baekoff (he is British, he is her bae, he takes pleasure in cooking) had actually asked her not wear it on the Paris Mtro and also which she had of program used on the Paris Mtro. So the not taking herself also seriously point checks out.

When 2 Dope Queens relocated to HBO, Robinson would typically record discounts without makeup or while pretending that her wig was doing the talking. Fifty percent the time Im doing something truly stupid as well as I can much like conceal it, but Im like, thats who I am, she claims.

She doesn ‘t recognize just how, or if, her oversharing design will certainly convert to the UK, yet her partner has actually alerted her that British target markets can be more suppressed. They might not be hooting and shrieking, yet that doesn ‘t mean they ‘reOriginal message also short.Original message as well short.Original text too brief. not enjoying, she guarantees herself. The possibility does not make her remotely as worried as the moment she and Williams talked to among her heroes, Michelle Obama (various other heroes: Oprah, Bono, her moms and dads, her huge bro). When she stood up after the meeting, her shoes had plenty of sweat. I was really nervous concerning sliding and also falling, she states. Thats how much sweat remained in my footwear!

Funny, which is still really white and also still really male, hasn’t always rated to such females as her, and also she does not love concerns concerning exactly how to enhance things. It needs to be a teamwork and till straight dudes are expected to roll up their sleeves as well as get to function, she states, Im over being inquired about what males need to do. What does she need to do? Talk as honestly and truthfully as she can around hookups as well as periods and sexism and racism as well as the errors of white-lady feminism as well as shapewear knowing that the funny will constantly discover its method there.

 

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